Discussion:
rear sway bar for exa
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vrmmmpshhh
2002-04-26 11:19:15 UTC
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hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed exa.. im
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot better
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer over to
the exa with mounts?
damlowet
2002-04-26 15:29:04 UTC
Permalink
Hey Vrmmm


I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your handling. =7]

There are two different ones that you can get. I have a feeling
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the leaded
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.

Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.


This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just mounted
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!


Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front bar
please. =7]


The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar

Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!


So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to look
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.


Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed exa.. im
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot better
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer over to
the exa with mounts?
vrmmmpshhh
2002-04-27 07:06:45 UTC
Permalink
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway bar,
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my exa,
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your handling.
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a feeling
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front bar
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to look
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer over to
the exa with mounts?
Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-27 13:40:12 UTC
Permalink
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and thickest. It
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has to be more
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took my GL one
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling greatly! I
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same time but I
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the other
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the thickness of both
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just thinking that
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid and the GL is
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about the rear
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle grinder out to
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put mine on along
with the ET. : )

Wes
-----Original Message-----
From: vrmmmpshhh [mailto:vrmmmpshhh-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway bar,
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my exa,
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your handling.
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a feeling
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front bar
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to look
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer over to
the exa with mounts?
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jarrad85et
2002-04-27 18:21:14 UTC
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I haven't been folloing this conversation, but although i couldn't
make any sense out of this thread, are you trying to say that the ET
front sway bar is bigger than the back.. and that you can easily put
the front sway bar on the back?
If not.. then what is the argument all about?

Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has to be more
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took my GL one
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling greatly! I
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same time but I
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the other
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the thickness of both
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid and the GL is
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about the rear
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put mine on along
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway bar,
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my exa,
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-28 11:35:22 UTC
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No.
We were having a louder than normal discussion. :P It was whether the rear
sway bar of the GL was hollow and whether the ET rear was solid and thicker.
Either way it IS thicker, I just found (still find) it very hard to believe
that the sway bar can be hollow (either of them- any make or model of car).
I think the thickness would be the only thing that varies.


-----Original Message-----
From: jarrad85et [mailto:js_thomas-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 2:21 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


I haven't been folloing this conversation, but although i couldn't
make any sense out of this thread, are you trying to say that the ET
front sway bar is bigger than the back.. and that you can easily put
the front sway bar on the back?
If not.. then what is the argument all about?

Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has to be more
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took my GL one
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling greatly! I
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same time but I
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the other
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the thickness of both
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid and the GL is
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about the rear
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put mine on along
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway bar,
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my exa,
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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daz83au
2002-04-28 11:57:36 UTC
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Just for us that don't know, where does the Rear sway bar fit (on an
EXA) & for that matter where does the front one sit???
Post by Wesley Nicholson
No.
We were having a louder than normal discussion. :P It was whether the rear
sway bar of the GL was hollow and whether the ET rear was solid and thicker.
Either way it IS thicker, I just found (still find) it very hard to believe
that the sway bar can be hollow (either of them- any make or model of car).
I think the thickness would be the only thing that varies.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 2:21 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
I haven't been folloing this conversation, but although i
couldn't
Post by Wesley Nicholson
make any sense out of this thread, are you trying to say that the ET
front sway bar is bigger than the back.. and that you can easily put
the front sway bar on the back?
If not.. then what is the argument all about?
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore
has to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by Wesley Nicholson
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar
with an
Post by Wesley Nicholson
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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changerz
2002-04-28 13:18:22 UTC
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i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there are no
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same time.
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks, callipers,
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened the ass
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy, rolly and
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth

Paul.
Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-28 16:55:05 UTC
Permalink
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over the GL bar.
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might try the ET
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be lending to a
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If that stiffens
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I can get
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar that's too
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in the wet). You
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just sliding out. I
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip (shudders
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium of drive and
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like and the inside
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of having bars
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few locations to help limit
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers certificate if need be.
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the chassis is weak from
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you keep bend metal
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash (so the
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then straightened. Fine. But the
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and down flexing.
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if it's
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel currently
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )

Wes
-----Original Message-----
From: changerz [mailto:changaz_-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there are no
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same time.
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks, callipers,
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened the ass
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy, rolly and
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth

Paul.


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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-28 17:10:29 UTC
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Shit, I can't get my replies correct! :(
When I start the second line "It handles ok...." I'm NOW referring to the
front sway bars. Man I'm tired. Sorry for the confusion!

Wes
-----Original Message-----
From: Wesley Nicholson [mailto:wesn-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 12:55 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over the GL bar.
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might try the ET
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be lending to a
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If that
stiffens
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I can get
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar that's too
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in the wet).
You
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just sliding out. I
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip (shudders
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium of drive
and
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like and the
inside
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of having bars
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few locations to help limit
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers certificate if need be.
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the chassis is weak
from
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you keep bend
metal
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash (so the
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then straightened. Fine. But
the
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and down
flexing.
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if it's
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel currently
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )

Wes
-----Original Message-----
From: changerz [mailto:changaz_-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there are no
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same time.
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks, callipers,
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened the ass
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy, rolly and
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth

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neo_3175
2002-04-29 02:32:55 UTC
Permalink
try some new tyres



Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over the GL bar.
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might try the ET
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If that stiffens
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I can get
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar that's too
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in the wet). You
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just sliding out. I
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium of drive and
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like and the inside
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of having bars
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few locations to help limit
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers certificate if need be.
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the chassis is weak from
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you keep bend metal
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash (so the
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then straightened.
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and down flexing.
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if it's
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there are no
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same time.
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened the ass
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy, rolly and
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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Service.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-29 06:47:39 UTC
Permalink
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres, obviously just not as
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
From: neo_3175 [mailto:neo_3175-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


try some new tyres



Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over the GL bar.
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might try the ET
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If that stiffens
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I can get
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar that's too
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in the wet). You
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just sliding out. I
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium of drive and
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like and the inside
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of having bars
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few locations to help limit
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers certificate if need be.
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the chassis is weak from
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you keep bend metal
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash (so the
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then straightened.
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and down flexing.
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if it's
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there are no
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same time.
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened the ass
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy, rolly and
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 08:05:26 UTC
Permalink
are they cheap tyres ?

ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really sticky
and love the wet..

but @ around $260 a tyre they arent cheap

Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres, obviously just not as
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few locations to
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers certificate
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the chassis
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then straightened.
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if it's
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy,
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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Service.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-29 08:29:03 UTC
Permalink
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance ones (I've
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's but I do a
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!

-----Original Message-----
From: neo_3175 [mailto:neo_3175-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


are they cheap tyres ?

ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really sticky
and love the wet..

but @ around $260 a tyre they arent cheap

Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres, obviously just not as
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few locations to
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers certificate
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the chassis
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then straightened.
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if it's
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i were you i
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it stiffened
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy,
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded front bar to
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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Post by Wesley Nicholson
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 08:40:48 UTC
Permalink
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?


Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance ones (I've
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's but I do a
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres, obviously
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy,
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded
front
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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Service.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-29 09:53:00 UTC
Permalink
Not sure.
-----Original Message-----
From: neo_3175 [mailto:neo_3175-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:41 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?


Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance ones (I've
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's but I do a
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres, obviously
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement over
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer! Might
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his car. If
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar that I
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering (especially in
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy medium
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would like
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars too?
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right side crash
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up and
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering wheel
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen, there
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at the same
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy,
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded
front
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bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
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compliment the addition of the rear bar.
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 10:21:41 UTC
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mate of mine owns bridgestong in belconnen and dickson ill give him a
call tomorrow and check for u

Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Not sure.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance
ones
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the
14's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast
improvement
Post by Wesley Nicholson
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit
stiffer!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway
bar
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol
happy
Post by Wesley Nicholson
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I
would
Post by Wesley Nicholson
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been
thinking of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your
cars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by Wesley Nicholson
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as
up
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-
out) if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering
wheel
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have
seen,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
there
Post by Wesley Nicholson
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
same
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy,
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded
front
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 10:22:02 UTC
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err Bridgestone !

typo sorry

Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Not sure.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:41 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance
ones
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the
14's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast
improvement
Post by Wesley Nicholson
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit
stiffer!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway
bar
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol
happy
Post by Wesley Nicholson
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I
would
Post by Wesley Nicholson
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been
thinking of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your
cars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by Wesley Nicholson
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as
up
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-
out) if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering
wheel
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have
seen,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
there
Post by Wesley Nicholson
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
same
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling sloppy,
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded
front
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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jarrad85et
2002-04-29 14:02:32 UTC
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I could have got a set of 14" grid II's (second hand.. about 80%
tread) for $320 for the whole set..?
Do these tyres last long?
they look like a soft compound..

Jarrad
Post by neo_3175
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance
ones
Post by neo_3175
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer!
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by neo_3175
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by neo_3175
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by neo_3175
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering
wheel
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen,
there
Post by Wesley Nicholson
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at
the
Post by neo_3175
same
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling
sloppy,
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded
front
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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Post by neo_3175
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Post by Wesley Nicholson
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Wesley Nicholson
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That's a good price. What exact size were they?
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Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:03 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


I could have got a set of 14" grid II's (second hand.. about 80%
tread) for $320 for the whole set..?
Do these tyres last long?
they look like a soft compound..

Jarrad
Post by neo_3175
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good performance
ones
Post by neo_3175
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are really
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast improvement
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit stiffer!
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that I'll be
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by neo_3175
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a sway bar
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by neo_3175
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling for grip
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been thinking of
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that if you
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by neo_3175
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-out) if
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My steering
wheel
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen,
there
Post by Wesley Nicholson
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at
the
Post by neo_3175
same
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar, disks,
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling
sloppy,
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an upgraded
front
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bar to
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compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 16:46:40 UTC
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they are a very soft compound... but they dont wear as fast as i
thort.. there is 2 options.. tyre life = hard/not as sticky
grip = soft/about 2/3 tyre life


Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
That's a good price. What exact size were they?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
I could have got a set of 14" grid II's (second hand.. about 80%
tread) for $320 for the whole set..?
Do these tyres last long?
they look like a soft compound..
Jarrad
Post by neo_3175
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good
performance
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ones
Post by neo_3175
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are
really
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast
improvement
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit
stiffer!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that
I'll
Post by Wesley Nicholson
be
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by neo_3175
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by neo_3175
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been
thinking
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by neo_3175
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-
out)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My
steering
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
wheel
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen,
there
Post by Wesley Nicholson
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at
the
Post by neo_3175
same
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar,
disks,
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front feeling
sloppy,
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an
upgraded
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
front
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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jarrad85et
2002-04-30 14:39:14 UTC
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My last car was a 1300 na pulsar.. i got 185/65/13 kuhmo's allround
(new).. with rotation, and they lasted 2 months..
that's not good enough
i need better tyres than that for over 500-600 a set..

Jarrad
Post by neo_3175
they are a very soft compound... but they dont wear as fast as i
thort.. there is 2 options.. tyre life = hard/not as sticky
grip = soft/about 2/3 tyre life
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
That's a good price. What exact size were they?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
I could have got a set of 14" grid II's (second hand.. about 80%
tread) for $320 for the whole set..?
Do these tyres last long?
they look like a soft compound..
Jarrad
Post by neo_3175
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good
performance
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ones
Post by neo_3175
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the
14's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are
really
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast
improvement
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit
stiffer!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that
I'll
Post by Wesley Nicholson
be
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by neo_3175
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket
sway
Post by neo_3175
bar
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by neo_3175
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front
is
Post by neo_3175
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol
happy
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I
would
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for
grip.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been
thinking
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to
your
Post by neo_3175
cars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by neo_3175
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much
as up
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-
out)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My
steering
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
wheel
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
currently
Post by Wesley Nicholson
pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have
seen,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
there
Post by Wesley Nicholson
are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
no
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted.
If i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
were
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you i
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks
at
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by neo_3175
same
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar,
disks,
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
callipers,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ass
Post by Wesley Nicholson
up dramatically, however it left the front
feeling
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
sloppy,
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rolly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
generally very "loose". i would recommend an
upgraded
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
front
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
Paul.
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jarrad85et
2002-04-30 14:36:14 UTC
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They were 185/60/14

Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
That's a good price. What exact size were they?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:03 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
I could have got a set of 14" grid II's (second hand.. about 80%
tread) for $320 for the whole set..?
Do these tyres last long?
they look like a soft compound..
Jarrad
Post by neo_3175
they dont make bridgestone grid II's for the 14" ?
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ET rims. 185/60/14's
Maxxis $95 each.
Can't really get REAL good tyres on 14's. The good
performance
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ones
Post by neo_3175
(I've
Post by Wesley Nicholson
been told) start on the 15's
I know you can probably get some good quality tyres for the 14's
but I do a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
few kays and Yoko's or something like that, just don't last!
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
are they cheap tyres ?
ive got 205's on mine and they are grid II's they are
really
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
sticky
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and love the wet..
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
New or larger? It does this even with brand new tyres,
obviously
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
just not as
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bad as when there's 60% tread left though
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
try some new tyres
Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Yeah I know hey! The rear ET bar made a vast
improvement
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
GL bar.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
It handles ok but I wouldn't mind it being a bit
stiffer!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by neo_3175
Might
Post by Wesley Nicholson
try
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bar. I also have a strut tower brace that
I'll
Post by Wesley Nicholson
be
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
lending to a
Post by Wesley Nicholson
friend for a little while to see how she feels on his
car.
Post by neo_3175
If
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stiffens
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it up enough I won't buy a brand new aftermarket sway bar
that I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can get
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from a suspension place in Perth.
Geordo mentioned that if you go too stiff (or buy a
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
too
Post by Wesley Nicholson
thick) the car will act like it's understeering
(especially
Post by neo_3175
in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
wet). You
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need some body roll.
I go around round-abouts in the wet and the front is just
sliding
Post by Wesley Nicholson
out. I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
back the power RIGHT off and it is still struggling
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(shudders
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heaps). I easy the power on and try to get the 'ol happy
medium
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
drive and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
grip but it pisses me off!
In the dry it just has a bit more body roll than I would
like
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the inside
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tyre (to the bend obviously) starts struggling for grip.
I wish these cars had a FULL chassis!! I've been
thinking
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
having
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
welded from one chassis rail to the other in a few
locations to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
help limit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
body roll and chassis flex. I can get an engineers
certificate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
need be.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
What do you guys think? Does all this happen to your cars
too?
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Mine been in a big crash and I'm just wondering if the
chassis
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
weak from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
being straightened. Can this also happen? I know that
if
Post by Wesley Nicholson
you
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
keep
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bend metal
Post by Wesley Nicholson
around it will weaken it. But if I have, say, a right
side
Post by neo_3175
crash
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
(so the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis is now twisted to the left) that is then
straightened.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Fine. But the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
chassis doesn't have to work left and right as much as up
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
down
Post by Wesley Nicholson
flexing.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Know what I mean or is this as clear as mud?
It shouldn't weaken it by much (light front-end wipe-
out)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
if
Post by neo_3175
Post by Wesley Nicholson
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
straightened should it?
I know there are varying degrees of damage. My
steering
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wheel
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currently
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pulls to the left a little bit
Sorry for the long post
: o )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:18 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
i dont know if you know, but in every exa i have seen,
there
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are
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no
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mounting holes for the et sway bar to be mounted. If i
were
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you i
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would take the opportunity to upgrade to et disks at
the
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same
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time.
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It cost me $250 for everything, including sway bar,
disks,
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callipers,
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master cyl and booster, all lines. etc.
one other thing, when i put the et sway bar on, it
stiffened
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the
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ass
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up dramatically, however it left the front feeling
sloppy,
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rolly
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and
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generally very "loose". i would recommend an
upgraded
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front
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bar to
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compliment the addition of the rear bar.
just my 2c worth
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damlowet
2002-04-28 15:02:26 UTC
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I'll take a couple of pics "end on" also, so you can see both walls
that have been pushed together.



BTW, my ET handles sooooo much better than before, I can probably
pull an extra 10 - 20 kmh through different corners than before.


Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
No.
We were having a louder than normal discussion. :P It was whether the rear
sway bar of the GL was hollow and whether the ET rear was solid and thicker.
Either way it IS thicker, I just found (still find) it very hard to believe
that the sway bar can be hollow (either of them- any make or model of car).
I think the thickness would be the only thing that varies.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 2:21 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
I haven't been folloing this conversation, but although i couldn't
make any sense out of this thread, are you trying to say that the ET
front sway bar is bigger than the back.. and that you can easily put
the front sway bar on the back?
If not.. then what is the argument all about?
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has
to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by Wesley Nicholson
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with
an
Post by Wesley Nicholson
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
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to
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the exa with mounts?
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jarrad85et
2002-04-28 15:12:22 UTC
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I'm up for a new set of tyres on my ET.
does anyone know if i can fit 195/60/14 on the stock rims (5" wide).
Will i need spacers?
And if i can't fit.. then what do you guys recommend i fit to the
standard rims?

Cheers
Jarrad
Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-28 17:10:22 UTC
Permalink
Looking back at the msg I sent before this, I meant the ET kerb weight is
more than the GL or GX. Therefore I would think that the ET would have a
larger or more rigid sway bar due to more weight flexing the chassis.
-----Original Message-----
From: jarrad85et [mailto:js_thomas-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 2:21 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


I haven't been folloing this conversation, but although i couldn't
make any sense out of this thread, are you trying to say that the ET
front sway bar is bigger than the back.. and that you can easily put
the front sway bar on the back?
If not.. then what is the argument all about?

Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has to be more
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took my GL one
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling greatly! I
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same time but I
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the other
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the thickness of both
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid and the GL is
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about the rear
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put mine on along
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway bar,
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my exa,
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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damlowet
2002-04-28 14:42:05 UTC
Permalink
I'll take couple of pics.

BTW, I measured them with vernias.

Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory as my
parents have owned it from new, as for my ET,....well....I'm not 100%
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).

Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear bar.
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes (cough**rubbish**)
manual.


Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has to be more
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took my GL one
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling greatly! I
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same time but I
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the other
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the thickness of both
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid and the GL is
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about the rear
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put mine on along
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway bar,
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my exa,
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly onto
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for em.
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread bolts,
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with an EXA
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was sawying
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 02:26:26 UTC
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want me to measure up mine ?

i got the stock N/A ones on the car still


Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory as my
parents have owned it from new, as for my ET,....well....I'm not 100%
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes (cough**rubbish**)
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-29 09:58:21 UTC
Permalink
Regarding the front sway bar:
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar and they said
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff) that if you
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49% difference.
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is the 24mm Whiteline
bar @ $185. No Pulsar came out with a front sway bar that size.
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : ( Not cheap!!
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!

I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front and back.
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear bars and they are
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large thickness
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear sway bar.
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know that the ET
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best one to go
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84- 20mm, '85- 21mm,
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P

Wes







-----Original Message-----
From: neo_3175 [mailto:neo_3175-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


want me to measure up mine ?

i got the stock N/A ones on the car still


Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory as my
parents have owned it from new, as for my ET,....well....I'm not 100%
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes (cough**rubbish**)
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased handling
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure yours
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar directly
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard thread
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you front
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19% increase in
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might want to
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to transfer
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
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the exa with mounts?
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neo_3175
2002-04-29 10:27:44 UTC
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ill have alook at mine


Nate
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar and they said
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff) that if you
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49% difference.
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is the 24mm Whiteline
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : ( Not cheap!!
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front and back.
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear bars and they are
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large thickness
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear sway bar.
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know that the ET
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best one to go
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84- 20mm, '85- 21mm,
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory as my
parents have owned it from new, as for my ET,....well....I'm not
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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damlowet
2002-04-30 03:52:14 UTC
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The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!

Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no rear bar?


Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar and they said
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff) that if you
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49% difference.
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is the 24mm Whiteline
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : ( Not cheap!!
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front and back.
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear bars and they are
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large thickness
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear sway bar.
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know that the ET
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best one to go
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84- 20mm, '85- 21mm,
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory as my
parents have owned it from new, as for my ET,....well....I'm not
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore has
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one. I took
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside and the
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this about
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for a sway
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar on my
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you measure
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check again
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar than the
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking yards for
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today) just
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar with
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade might
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear drummed
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle a lot
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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paull_charman
2002-04-30 03:58:56 UTC
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Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no rear bar?
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49% difference.
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is the 24mm
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : ( Not
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear bars and
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear sway bar.
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my ET,....well....I'm not
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best and
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight therefore
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one.
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the same
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is solid
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the angle
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then I'll put
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I have a
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have (Today)
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of you
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to handle
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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damlowet
2002-04-30 04:17:29 UTC
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That's what I'd think!

Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?



Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no rear bar?
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is the 24mm
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear bars and
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear sway bar.
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one.
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then
I'll
Post by paull_charman
put
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I
have a
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of
you
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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fullboost1
2002-04-30 04:20:56 UTC
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The ones on my car, seem a bit large, both are KMAC
Front - 27mm
Rear - 22mm

Although, I remember when they went on, striaght away the car felt
stiffer, over the std ones.
Post by damlowet
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no rear
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
damlowet
2002-04-30 04:23:17 UTC
Permalink
27!!! Holy shit batman!!!

That's more than 250% increase in stiffness.


Damo
Post by fullboost1
The ones on my car, seem a bit large, both are KMAC
Front - 27mm
Rear - 22mm
Although, I remember when they went on, striaght away the car felt
stiffer, over the std ones.
Post by damlowet
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no rear
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
fullboost1
2002-04-30 04:27:07 UTC
Permalink
yeah, I remember the guy at Pedders said "whoa" and had to go deep
into the stock area to find the appropriate bush I was after hehe

I've noticed lately that the car tends to understeer, has poor turn
in, but I have garbage remoulds on the front, might have something to
do with it :D

I think I had better put the 16's back on
Post by damlowet
27!!! Holy shit batman!!!
That's more than 250% increase in stiffness.
Damo
paull_charman
2002-04-30 05:06:03 UTC
Permalink
Yeah, a car with stiff sways (and springs) will rely on tyres alot
more. When I first put my Koni's & King's in with the stocko 14's I
thought, shit what a waste of $1000, but once I put some 15's with
decent rubber on, fuck me!!! It was awesome. That is why Falcadores
and small cars etc. have a lot of body roll because they design the
suspension to take up the stress of cornering rather than the shitty
no grip tyres they sell them with. It also makes the tyres last
longer and the car more forgiving for the average driver. It is also
the same reason why race cars run a softer sway/spring setting in the
wet.
Post by fullboost1
yeah, I remember the guy at Pedders said "whoa" and had to go deep
into the stock area to find the appropriate bush I was after hehe
I've noticed lately that the car tends to understeer, has poor turn
in, but I have garbage remoulds on the front, might have something to
do with it :D
I think I had better put the 16's back on
Post by damlowet
27!!! Holy shit batman!!!
That's more than 250% increase in stiffness.
Damo
Glenn Griffin
2002-04-30 08:35:26 UTC
Permalink
Yeah, I'll measure ASAP.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: damlowet [mailto:damlowet-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:17 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


That's what I'd think!

Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?



Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no rear bar?
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is the 24mm
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear bars and
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear sway bar.
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for the rear
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the rear one.
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that increased
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I was just
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on then
I'll
Post by paull_charman
put
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar parts for
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front sway bar
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model.. ill check
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference to your
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can get. I
have a
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger rear bar
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few wrecking
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head standard
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the front bar
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the diametre of
you
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling upgrade
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any suggestions, i was
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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vrmmmpshhh
2002-04-30 08:45:10 UTC
Permalink
yeah im measured mine a few days ago,, i was very sure it was 24 and
i measured it a few times. but like i said i have the model with the
vented front discs.
Post by Glenn Griffin
Yeah, I'll measure ASAP.
The Renegade.
If It's Loud, I Like It.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
24mm
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear
bars
Post by Glenn Griffin
and
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
rear
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
one.
Post by paull_charman
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that
increased
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I
was
Post by Glenn Griffin
just
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on
then
Post by Glenn Griffin
I'll
Post by paull_charman
put
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar
parts
Post by Glenn Griffin
for
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model..
ill
Post by Glenn Griffin
check
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference
to
Post by Glenn Griffin
your
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can
get. I
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
have a
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger
rear bar
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few
wrecking
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head
standard
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the
front
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the
diametre of
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
you
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling
upgrade
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any
suggestions, i
Post by Glenn Griffin
was
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
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to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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Glenn Griffin
2002-04-30 09:34:46 UTC
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Yep, I have the vented disks too. I measured my sway bar, and it appears
that VRMMMPSHHH is correct, I too have a 24mm (or there abouts) front sway
bar. Mind you I don't have any verniers, but it's correct to within 1mm I
think.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: vrmmmpshhh [mailto:vrmmmpshhh-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 6:45 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


yeah im measured mine a few days ago,, i was very sure it was 24 and
i measured it a few times. but like i said i have the model with the
vented front discs.
Post by Glenn Griffin
Yeah, I'll measure ASAP.
The Renegade.
If It's Loud, I Like It.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
24mm
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear
bars
Post by Glenn Griffin
and
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
rear
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
one.
Post by paull_charman
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that
increased
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I
was
Post by Glenn Griffin
just
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on
then
Post by Glenn Griffin
I'll
Post by paull_charman
put
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar
parts
Post by Glenn Griffin
for
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model..
ill
Post by Glenn Griffin
check
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference
to
Post by Glenn Griffin
your
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can
get. I
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
have a
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger
rear bar
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few
wrecking
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head
standard
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the
front
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the
diametre of
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
you
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling
upgrade
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any
suggestions, i
Post by Glenn Griffin
was
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-04-30 14:22:58 UTC
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One mm can make a big difference
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Griffin [mailto:the_renegade_2000-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 5:35 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


Yep, I have the vented disks too. I measured my sway bar, and it appears
that VRMMMPSHHH is correct, I too have a 24mm (or there abouts) front
sway
bar. Mind you I don't have any verniers, but it's correct to within 1mm I
think.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: vrmmmpshhh [mailto:vrmmmpshhh-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 6:45 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


yeah im measured mine a few days ago,, i was very sure it was 24 and
i measured it a few times. but like i said i have the model with the
vented front discs.
Post by Glenn Griffin
Yeah, I'll measure ASAP.
The Renegade.
If It's Loud, I Like It.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
24mm
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear
bars
Post by Glenn Griffin
and
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
rear
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
one.
Post by paull_charman
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that
increased
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I
was
Post by Glenn Griffin
just
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on
then
Post by Glenn Griffin
I'll
Post by paull_charman
put
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar
parts
Post by Glenn Griffin
for
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model..
ill
Post by Glenn Griffin
check
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference
to
Post by Glenn Griffin
your
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can
get. I
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
have a
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger
rear bar
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few
wrecking
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head
standard
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the
front
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the
diametre of
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
you
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling
upgrade
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any
suggestions, i
Post by Glenn Griffin
was
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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Glenn Griffin
2002-05-01 08:16:18 UTC
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Yeah, I know, just gettin a general idea out. Couldn't find any bloody
verniers today damn it.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: Wesley Nicholson [mailto:wesn-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 12:23 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


One mm can make a big difference
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Griffin [mailto:the_renegade_2000-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 5:35 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


Yep, I have the vented disks too. I measured my sway bar, and it
appears
that VRMMMPSHHH is correct, I too have a 24mm (or there abouts) front
sway
bar. Mind you I don't have any verniers, but it's correct to within 1mm
I
think.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: vrmmmpshhh [mailto:vrmmmpshhh-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 6:45 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


yeah im measured mine a few days ago,, i was very sure it was 24 and
i measured it a few times. but like i said i have the model with the
vented front discs.
Post by Glenn Griffin
Yeah, I'll measure ASAP.
The Renegade.
If It's Loud, I Like It.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
24mm
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear
bars
Post by Glenn Griffin
and
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
rear
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
one.
Post by paull_charman
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that
increased
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I
was
Post by Glenn Griffin
just
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thinking that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by damlowet
the GL is
Post by Wesley Nicholson
hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
rear
Post by Wesley Nicholson
one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
grinder out to
Post by Wesley Nicholson
find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on
then
Post by Glenn Griffin
I'll
Post by paull_charman
put
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mine
Post by damlowet
on along
Post by Wesley Nicholson
with the ET. : )
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar
parts
Post by Glenn Griffin
for
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bar,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
on
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
exa,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
yours
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model..
ill
Post by Glenn Griffin
check
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
again
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
right now .. yep its 24mm
Post by damlowet
Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
onto
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the EXA. This will make quite a big difference
to
Post by Glenn Griffin
your
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
handling.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
=7]
Post by damlowet
There are two different ones that you can
get. I
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
have a
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
feeling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger
rear bar
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
than the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
leaded
Post by damlowet
GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few
wrecking
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
yards
Post by damlowet
for
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
em.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head
standard
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
thread
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
bolts,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
just
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
mounted
Post by damlowet
a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the
front
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
with
Post by Wesley Nicholson
an
Post by damlowet
EXA
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the
diametre of
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
you
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by damlowet
please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling
upgrade
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
might
Post by damlowet
want
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
look
Post by damlowet
at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
exa..
Post by damlowet
im
Post by vrmmmpshhh
looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
Post by paull_charman
a
Post by damlowet
lot
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
better
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
through the hills. anyone have any
suggestions, i
Post by Glenn Griffin
was
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
sawying
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
over
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
Post by vrmmmpshhh
the exa with mounts?
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-05-01 08:35:24 UTC
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Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the rear choice
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock bars from
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa has a 24mm
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline bar and been
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some vernia's
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front bar? '84, '85, '86?

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Griffin [mailto:the_renegade_2000-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 4:16 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


Yeah, I know, just gettin a general idea out. Couldn't find any bloody
verniers today damn it.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: Wesley Nicholson [mailto:wesn-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 12:23 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


One mm can make a big difference
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Griffin [mailto:the_renegade_2000-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 5:35 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


Yep, I have the vented disks too. I measured my sway bar, and it
appears
that VRMMMPSHHH is correct, I too have a 24mm (or there abouts) front
sway
bar. Mind you I don't have any verniers, but it's correct to within
1mm
I
think.

The Renegade.

If It's Loud, I Like It.


-----Original Message-----
From: vrmmmpshhh [mailto:vrmmmpshhh-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 6:45 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


yeah im measured mine a few days ago,, i was very sure it was 24 and
i measured it a few times. but like i said i have the model with the
vented front discs.
Post by Glenn Griffin
Yeah, I'll measure ASAP.
The Renegade.
If It's Loud, I Like It.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
That's what I'd think!
Is anyone able to measure their front EXA bar with a set of
vernia's?
Damo
Post by paull_charman
Yuck, No rear bar and a thick front one would make it a bit
understeery wouldn't it.
Post by damlowet
The bar I pulled off the EXA is 22mm!
Maby they had a chunckier front one because they had no
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar?
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I just called the suspension place about a Whiteline front bar
and
Post by damlowet
they said
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go for the larger out of the two.
The GL is thicker and he says it is therefore better.
He said that on a general scale (he had a graph of this stuff)
that
Post by damlowet
if you
Post by Wesley Nicholson
go from 20mm to 21mm in diameter the increase is a 49%
difference.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
?
Oh well.
He also said that the only aftermarket size they have is
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
24mm
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Whiteline
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The largest rear they do is 18mm. That is also $185! : (
Not
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
cheap!!
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Especially when the ET bar IS 18mm already!
I have all the car's sway bar's. The ET, 1.5 GL and 1.6- front
and
Post by damlowet
back.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Now about the rear. I looked at the 1.5 GL and 1.6 rear
bars
Post by Glenn Griffin
and
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
they are
Post by Wesley Nicholson
identical.
Then I compared the 1.5 GL to the ET and there is a large
thickness
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
difference.
So, with the rears, without a doubt- go for the ET rear
sway
Post by Glenn Griffin
bar.
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
The 1.6 front I want to measure properly with verniers. We know
that the ET
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is 20mm and the GL is 21mm. So at the moment the GL is the best
one
Post by damlowet
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for because it's the larger of the two.
hehehe maybe they added 1mm per year on the models: '84-
20mm, '85-
Post by damlowet
21mm,
Post by Wesley Nicholson
maybe '86 is 22mm! :P
Wes
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 10:26 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
want me to measure up mine ?
i got the stock N/A ones on the car still
Nate
Post by damlowet
I'll take couple of pics.
BTW, I measured them with vernias.
Also, the GX leaded one (front + rear) I know are factory
as
Post by damlowet
my
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
parents have owned it from new, as for my
ET,....well....I'm
Post by paull_charman
not
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
100%
Post by damlowet
sure, but the manual says 20mm front (ET) 21mm front (N/A).
Funly enough, the manual doesn't have any specs for
the
Post by Glenn Griffin
rear
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar.
Post by damlowet
In either the Factory Nissan manual or the Hanes
(cough**rubbish**)
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
manual.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
I disagree with Damo. I think the ET one will be the best
and
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
thickest. It
Post by Wesley Nicholson
is heavier than the GL/GX etc. It has more weight
therefore
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
has
Post by Wesley Nicholson
to
Post by damlowet
be more
Post by Wesley Nicholson
"rigid" if you get me.
We've had this discussion a while back about the
rear
Post by Glenn Griffin
one.
Post by paull_charman
I
Post by damlowet
took
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
my GL one
Post by Wesley Nicholson
off and put on the larger ET version and that
increased
Post by Glenn Griffin
Post by paull_charman
Post by damlowet
handling
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
greatly! I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
tried stuffing around to put the GL AND ET one on at the
same
Post by damlowet
Post by Wesley Nicholson
time
Post by damlowet
but I
Post by Wesley Nicholson
couldn't do it. How did you manage to do it?
There was also talk about one being hollow on the inside
and
Post by damlowet
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
other
Post by Wesley Nicholson
solid. I (not very accurately I might add!) measured the
thickness
Post by damlowet
of both
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front sway bars and they appeared to be the same. I
was
Post by Glenn Griffin
just
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thinking that
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the difference (if it's even true) is that the ET one is
solid
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and
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the GL is
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hollow on the inside.
I had an argument with someone on the list regarding this
about
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the
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rear
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one. I was getting so pissed off that I was getting the
angle
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grinder out to
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find out! :P Glad I didn't coz if Damo got it on
then
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I'll
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put
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mine
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on along
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with the ET. : )
Wes
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Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
hey damo, thanks for the info ill check pulsar
parts
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for
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a
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sway
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bar,
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possibly 2 if they are cheap.. as for the front
sway
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bar
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on
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my
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exa,
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i just checked and it is 24-25mm,, which exa did you
measure
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yours
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from.. mine is the front vented disc 85 model..
ill
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check
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again
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right now .. yep its 24mm
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Hey Vrmmm
I'm quite sure that you can bolt the rear sway bar
directly
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onto
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the EXA. This will make quite a big difference
to
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your
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handling.
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=7]
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There are two different ones that you can
get. I
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have a
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feeling
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that the ET and unleaded E15/16 had a larger
rear bar
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than the
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leaded
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GX Pulsars. So have a look round at a few
wrecking
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yards
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for
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em.
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Real easy to mount, just need 4 12mm head
standard
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thread
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bolts,
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just take the ones from the car you get it off.
This is quite a coincidence though, as I have
(Today)
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just
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mounted
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a second rear bar to my ET, and replaced the
front
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bar
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with
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an
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EXA
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item!
Could you do me a favor and measure the
diametre of
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you
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front
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bar
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please. =7]
The ET's have a 20mm front bar
The N/A's have a 21mm front bar
And this EXA had a 22mm front bar
Doesn't sound much, but 21mm to a 22mm is a 19%
increase in
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stiffness!
So the guys looking for a cheap handling
upgrade
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might
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want
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to
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look
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at a N/A sway bar or possibly an EXA jobby.
Damo
Post by vrmmmpshhh
hey guys.. has anyone put a rear sway bar on a rear
drummed
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exa..
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im
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looking to do this soon cos i need the car to
handle
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a
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lot
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better
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through the hills. anyone have any
suggestions, i
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was
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sawying
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towards using the stock et ones, are they easy to
transfer
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over
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to
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the exa with mounts?
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fullboost1
2002-05-01 08:37:37 UTC
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Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the rear choice
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock bars from
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa has a 24mm
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline bar and been
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some vernia's
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
Sash
2002-05-01 13:05:32 UTC
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I also gotst a rear one lying around.


-----Original Message-----
From: fullboost1 [mailto:geordo-8owKgAnh7RAW+***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 6:38 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the rear choice
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock bars from
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa has a 24mm
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline bar and been
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some vernia's
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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vrmmmpshhh
2002-05-01 13:11:04 UTC
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the models which have the 24mm one is the 85 model, the updated
model with vented front disks and the better looking rear lights.
Post by Sash
I also gotst a rear one lying around.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 6:38 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by Sash
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for
stock
Post by Sash
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by Sash
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline
bar
Post by Sash
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get
some
Post by Sash
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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changerz
2002-05-02 01:22:17 UTC
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the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have the
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the whiteline
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
Wesley Nicholson
2002-05-03 11:04:39 UTC
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Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be much easier
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
From: changerz [mailto:changaz_-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have the
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the whiteline
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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damlowet
2002-05-03 14:10:29 UTC
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Hey Wes, I have to appologise, the rear bar does indeed look to be
solid. =7)


Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be much easier
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have the
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the whiteline
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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jarrad85et
2002-05-03 16:49:20 UTC
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They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars are
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of some
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.

Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be much easier
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have the
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the whiteline
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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Geordie Smith
2002-05-03 22:48:32 UTC
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Same stuff they use on the space shuttle.
-----Original Message-----
From: jarrad85et [mailto:js_thomas-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2002 2:49 AM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars are
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of some
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.

Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be much easier
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have the
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the whiteline
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for stock
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm Whiteline
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can get some
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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Dave Waldock
2002-05-03 23:45:00 UTC
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Anyone going to the test and tune today at willowbank? I'll be there, just fingers crossed the weather holds out. Anyway if it is on and anyone from here is going then look out for me.. I'll be wearing a Fullboost T-Shirt.. ;-)

Dave



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damlowet
2002-05-04 08:33:00 UTC
Permalink
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar rather
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is only 80%
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?



Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars are
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of some
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and the
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that the Exa
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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paull_charman
2002-05-05 07:34:46 UTC
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But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also provides
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200 sway bars
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front one),
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good balance.
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if someone
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A trait
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar rather
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is only 80%
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?
Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars
are
Post by jarrad85et
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of
some
Post by jarrad85et
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and
the
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that
the
Post by damlowet
Exa
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-05-05 08:22:27 UTC
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Adjustable front sway bar?
-----Original Message-----
From: paull_charman [mailto:paull_c-***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2002 3:35 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also provides
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200 sway bars
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front one),
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good balance.
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if someone
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A trait
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar rather
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is only 80%
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?
Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars
are
Post by jarrad85et
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of
some
Post by jarrad85et
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it would be
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you could have
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type of heat
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and
the
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of money for
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that
the
Post by damlowet
Exa
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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paull_charman
2002-05-05 23:43:56 UTC
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Whiteline do them. They have 3 or 4 different attachment points at
the end of the sway bar which allows you to make it softer and
harder. I think they make them for the ET, it was a little while ago
I was checking it out though. From what I could understand the bar is
the same but by mounting the end at different points it gives the bar
more or less leverage.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Adjustable front sway bar?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also
provides
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200 sway bars
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front one),
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good
balance.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if someone
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A
trait
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar rather
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is only 80%
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?
Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars
are
Post by jarrad85et
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of
some
Post by jarrad85et
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it
would be
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you
could
Post by Wesley Nicholson
have
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heat
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and
the
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of
money
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that
the
Post by damlowet
Exa
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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damlowet
2002-05-06 07:17:18 UTC
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OOhhhh yea! It can be done, But I don't think you can do it on the
N12 due to the front bar set up.



Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Adjustable front sway bar?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also
provides
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200 sway bars
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front one),
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good
balance.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if someone
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A
trait
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar rather
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is only 80%
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?
Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars
are
Post by jarrad85et
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of
some
Post by jarrad85et
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it
would be
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you
could
Post by Wesley Nicholson
have
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heat
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and
the
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of
money
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that
the
Post by damlowet
Exa
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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Post by Wesley Nicholson
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Wesley Nicholson
2002-05-06 17:27:22 UTC
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Could you explain that a bit more? You mean that the brackets, with the
bushes in them, can't be moved to change the stiffness? If so I know what
you mean but can't you put some extras on where you need them and unbolt the
others?
I haven't had a good look lately under my car, so I might be getting a bit
confused
-----Original Message-----
From: damlowet [mailto:damlowet-/***@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2002 3:17 PM
To: e15et-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa


OOhhhh yea! It can be done, But I don't think you can do it on the
N12 due to the front bar set up.



Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Adjustable front sway bar?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also
provides
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200 sway bars
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front one),
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good
balance.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if someone
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A
trait
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar rather
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is only 80%
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?
Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard sway bars
are
Post by jarrad85et
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are made of
some
Post by jarrad85et
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size.. it's still
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it
would be
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you
could
Post by Wesley Nicholson
have
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heat
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET bars spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way to go and
the
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of
money
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known that
the
Post by damlowet
Exa
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when someone can
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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damlowet
2002-05-07 06:44:35 UTC
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There is a pic in "Photo's Damo's stuff" twin front bars.

The mounting point of the second bar to the first can be moved to
change the stiffness. Unfortunatly on the N12, the isn't much/any
room to do a setup like this. So maby an adjustable one from a
suspension place might be the best option.


Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Could you explain that a bit more? You mean that the brackets, with the
bushes in them, can't be moved to change the stiffness? If so I know what
you mean but can't you put some extras on where you need them and unbolt the
others?
I haven't had a good look lately under my car, so I might be
getting a bit
Post by Wesley Nicholson
confused
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, 6 May 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
OOhhhh yea! It can be done, But I don't think you can do it on the
N12 due to the front bar set up.
Damo
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Adjustable front sway bar?
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also
provides
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front
one),
Post by Wesley Nicholson
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good
balance.
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if
someone
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by Wesley Nicholson
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A
trait
Post by Wesley Nicholson
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar
rather
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
than a $20 one, your doing well. Who realy cares if it is
only
Post by Wesley Nicholson
80%
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
as good as the wizz bang titanium bullshit?
Damo
Post by jarrad85et
They say on the whiteline site..(i think) that standard
sway
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
are
Post by jarrad85et
made from cheap spring steel.. and aftermarket ones are
made
Post by Wesley Nicholson
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
some
Post by jarrad85et
platinum titanium alloy spring shit or something..
they use better shit.. so even if it's the same size..
it's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
still
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
alot better.
Jarrad
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Doubt it. They should be made of the same metal.
They wouldn't be out to re-invent the sway bar when it
would be
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
much easier
Post by Wesley Nicholson
in every case to make it thicker instead
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: [e15et] Re: rear sway bar for exa
the thing with aftermarket bars is not the size. you
could
Post by Wesley Nicholson
have
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
the
Post by Wesley Nicholson
stock 24mm et bar, compared to a whiteline 23mm bar. the
whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can still be far stiffer! it all has to do with the type
of
Post by Wesley Nicholson
heat
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
treatment, the composition of the metal etc...
Post by fullboost1
Is anyone after these bars?, I have front+rear ET
bars
Post by Wesley Nicholson
spare
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Hehehehe :P
Sounds good! Sounds like the Exa bar is the way
to go
Post by Wesley Nicholson
and
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
the
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
rear
Post by fullboost1
choice
Post by Wesley Nicholson
should be the ET as it's definitely the biggest.
So, shit hey! Sounds like Whiteline want a LOT of
money
Post by Wesley Nicholson
for
Post by damlowet
Post by jarrad85et
stock
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
bars from
Post by Wesley Nicholson
different model Pulsars! Bastards!
If I wasn't on this list I would never have known
that
Post by Wesley Nicholson
the
Post by damlowet
Exa
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
has
Post by fullboost1
a 24mm
Post by Wesley Nicholson
front bar. I would've (in time) gone a bought a 24mm
Whiteline
Post by jarrad85et
Post by Wesley Nicholson
bar
Post by fullboost1
and been
Post by Wesley Nicholson
ripped off being none the wiser!
Cheers guys!
Would still like to know the exact size when
someone
Post by Wesley Nicholson
can
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by damlowet
get
Post by jarrad85et
some
Post by Wesley Nicholson
Post by fullboost1
vernia's
Post by Wesley Nicholson
on them.
Which model Exa do you guys have with the 24mm front
bar? '84, '85, '86?
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Post by Wesley Nicholson
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Post by jarrad85et
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tassuperkart
2002-05-06 01:09:21 UTC
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Hehehehehe
Succinctly put Paul!!!
Couldnt have described it (too much rear bar) any better myself!!!
LOL
E
Post by paull_charman
But primary to giving your car less "sway" the sway bar also
provides
Post by paull_charman
the front/back balance of your car. A pair of matching $200 sway bars
will give you this (especially if you get the adjustable front
one),
Post by paull_charman
where as a twin sway bar setup may or may not give you good
balance.
Post by paull_charman
Just a suggestion, not saying it will or it wont, but if someone
inexperienced puts twins on the back with a soft one on the front
it's going to be HELLO opposite lock on trailing throttle. A trait
that is endearing to some, but deadly to most.
Post by damlowet
Well, if you can get better value out of a $200+ sway bar
rather
Post by paull_charman